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Post by sicksixcrazy on Jul 27, 2014 21:01:10 GMT
I don't know why you guys are being so gay about armor break, we all use it. If taken into consideration that it's "banned" from the tournament, just do it on high tier characters; low/mid tiers need it.
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Post by G_Vegas24 on Jul 27, 2014 21:18:03 GMT
Ok Nuno, But there are 2 different items. One is Legit the other is nooby. Armor break can also be used for flinching the oppenent much quicker easier. As for RV a random item which allows you to vanish the hardest things in the game
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Post by sicksixcrazy on Jul 27, 2014 21:29:37 GMT
Comparing random vanishing and armor break?  ?? Duh fuck y'all. |
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Post by sicksixcrazy on Jul 27, 2014 21:30:56 GMT
Being Ignored  It's okay, Nuno. I won't ignore you. |
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Post by nunosox on Jul 27, 2014 23:02:35 GMT
Ok Nuno, But there are 2 different items. One is Legit the other is nooby. Armor break can also be used for flinching the oppenent much quicker easier. As for RV a random item which allows you to vanish the hardest things in the game legit? nooby? they both break the game lol |
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Post by gokussjg on Jul 28, 2014 1:17:14 GMT
You need armor break for combos and RV isn't playing legit lol its just some bull item and its really unfair xd
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Post by nunosox on Jul 28, 2014 1:21:07 GMT
You need armor break for combos and RV isn't playing legit lol its just some bull item and its really unfair xd maybe you are not supposed to hit those combos Lol |
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Post by Tournament Advisor on Jul 28, 2014 5:20:02 GMT
Hello, I am a xbox 360 player(will not give gamertag for personal reasons). I will most likely not be in the tournament thus another reason for me not giving my gamertag, don't have money for a ps3. Now to get straight to the point. I would like to advise you Zero to give a different outlook to the rules. Instead of just making "YOUR OWN" rules that you have created I believe it would be much to EVERYONE'S benefit that you put the rules up to a vote and use the tournament members as the voters. This way it would be much more fair for the PS3 community and anyone who does not totally agree with the rules. Of course two rules that you can leave alone are the garbage items and the true infinite combos(remember that xa is NOT infinite if there is instant turnaround or super rising, only way to be infinite vanish wise that I know off is xxxxba repeatedly with ss3 goku and this is EXTREMELY tough to pull off consecutively, I may be wrong here so I apologize if I am.)
Suggestions you SHOULD consider:
You may also want to tweak the 3 super attack rule and change it to 3-5. This way it would be easier to manage the low tiers but also be fair for high tiers since they have very high defense and can definitely take the damage if hit by all 5 in a game(some will probably not even be DIRECT damage such as a final flash or something(this is direct), wild sense combo is indirect damage since the super in itself does not cause damage. This will help players with more options on deciding which super to use without limiting them in the long term side of the battle.
Oh I think the XA combo attempt to limit should be scrapped as it MAY interfere with some one's fighting style, not saying it will but it MAY, anyway like I mentions early if some one does a long XA combo you can usually get out with super rise, well timed sway, well timed ki blast, mashing x, instant turnaround.
Don't forget Zero this is a tournament for FUN and some people have fun in different ways fighting wise so pls be considerate of there opinions, like undertaker somewhat said, its ps3 not xbox 360.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 14:31:38 GMT
These arent my own rules that i created this is the rules in general.Im free to listen to whatever people have to say but until u give me ur tag ur not getting no more response.
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Post by Tournamnet Advisor on Jul 28, 2014 16:23:32 GMT
I don't see why I need to give my gamertag if I will most likely not even be in the tournament, and I don't need you to respond, I was just providing some helpful advise that would benefit the tournaments rules. There is still 1-2 weeks left, im sure you could start up the vote and it would be very successful, its only fair to the ps3 players.
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Post by undertaker300 on Jul 28, 2014 19:50:07 GMT
To be honest Phantom I always had problems with some of the rules that we used in the tournys we had on xbox, also I want to know who came up with them? dont get me wrong I completely understand most of the rules but like many other I have my own opinion about this subject.
when I fought Shadow,cooleo and gutta in a 1st to 5 we didnt had this kind of rules it was just death matches to determine who is the better man (ofc none of us used 20 supers in a match but you get the point lol)
also you have the right to set the rules since you are the tournament organizer but you should in my honest opinion reconsider the suggestion the person above me made.
Letting the competitors vote on some of this rules to can be a good idea, like I mentioned before we are just guests on the PS3 they are used to one thing we and we to the other so its impossible to please everybody BUT we need to at least try and sacrifice things we were used to on the xbox and let it slide on the PS3, just like the PS3 players will sacrifice some stuff they were used to do in their matches.
1 - No Garbage items
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understandable
2 - No Infinites
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understandable
3 - No more than 1 RB Ki per combo
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understandable
4 - No fighting behind the back the whole match( or majority of it)
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I am a bit split about it cause I think it requires more clarification some smash attacks can only connect from the opponent back does that mean I am prohibited to use them?
also in my opinion I think if a LOW-MID tier pull a combo behind the opponent back and reset it while using the Guard cancel while the opponent has enough Ki to Super rise, thats the opponent fault for letting the other guy combo him so much behind his back while he has the chance to get out of that situation.
5 - No more than 3 Supers per game (Wilde Sense and Afterimage count as well)
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this is my biggest complaint, I had really tough time on the High Tier tourny with Piccolo when I faced transformable character while me on the hand couldnt transform and was restricted to 3 supers only, I was at huge disadvantage and probably would have got eliminated sooner or later if I faced the higher pros in the game, None transforable character are at huge disadvantage I would probably wont pick Piccolo just for that reason alone.
Dont agree with the WS,AIS,AI should count as a super, they give you an advantage over your opponent and can make your combos longer to deal extra dmg.
6 - No More than 1 Ultimate Per game
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I think ultimates barely do any dmg against a well DEF custom, so it doesnt really matter if you 1 or 2 more ultimates in the game (if you let your opponent charge up to Max ki its kinda your fault...)
7 - No Quick Turn Arounds No Rising(Super risings fine)
understandable, but I do think we need to consider the fact the PS3 players arent used to this yet, it will take them quite a while to adjust themselves to it, it took me a LONG LONG time to play Piccolo without using his Signature to catch my opponent in combos but I adjusted myself after quite a while in order to fit the "community rules"
8 - No Descending out of combos
^same as above
9 - Limit your vanish combos(The VALTUS way is fine) -
what is the Valtus way? and to be honest I never had any problem with Vanish combos in fact it makes the match a bit more flashy and its really easy to counter vanish combos if you time it right
10- No Camping people
should be more explained (this wasnt explained enough in the tourny we had, cause of that we had that vegeta and adult gohan drama lol...) should go more in depth, also does that mean I need to let my opponents charge their ki? since I cant "camp" them? please explain
11- No repeating the same combo over and over
requires more explanation, what do you consider a repetitive combo over and over? 2-3 times doing the same combo? other might find doing the same combo twice in a row cheap while the other dont.
I think thats a pretty tough restriction almost as worse as the super limit in match restriction.
12- No Modded Decks
over 9000% AGREED
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 20:08:44 GMT
4-No fighting behind the back the whole match etc
i dont really undertstand that but if u talking low tiers of course characters like gero,videl,etc need some hits from the back but i mean like dont be 80 percent or 100 percent behind the back.
5-3 super limit thing.
Are you serious?Wilde sense not counting as a super?Thats trash talk right there.In that case i could do 15 wilde senses with goku per match...
In my opinion u did fine using piccolo in the high tier tournament.
6-It dont matter if they do less damage against a good custom or not 1 ultimate is the limit.
7-no quick turn arounds etc.
I understand some ps3 people do some of those but im being very watchful on whos in this tournament.Like im not letting people who rise out of every combo into this tournament.
9-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-iKUXPaIPY this is it.Im not saying xa cant be used i mean that like no tristans or freedom justice type of style.The way Zap,cooleo etc would do it is fine.
10-I mean no sitting there waiting for the opponent to get back up,or just flying around like jg did to you in the piccolo matches.If someones low on ki and their in a combo thats their fault.
11-I just mean like dont be doing the same combo like 10 times in a row or using that same combo like 15 times in a match.
Im not doing no vote thing.Thats honestly just plain stupid.
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Post by undertaker300 on Jul 28, 2014 20:22:42 GMT
oops I dont know why on earth I wrote SHOULD NOT, I meant to write SHOULD alone with no other word afterwards
I was supporting your claim on this subject(you can read afterwards what I wrote about this in the same line why it does need to count as a super,you probably didnt read it I guess...)
Even though there was a misunderstanding here you dont need to automatically write "THIS IS TRASH TALK" right away lol, provide facts on the matter like I did while writing my post above
Ok, you are the tourny organizer after all
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Post by Tournament Advisor on Jul 28, 2014 20:25:00 GMT
How about you change the rules to this:
*Note im not trying to force these upon you but it is pretty obvious everyone has a problem with the current rules, this will allow people a broader spectrum in fighting styles, in a tournament you want to minimize as many limitations as possible while being considered "LEGIT"
1. No infinite combos
2. 3-5 Supers Allowed-wild sense, IT, AI, AIS, and those type will count as a super since there will be a max of 5 allowed, this is fair to everyone
3. No armor, heavy armor, random items, high tension after image, and the item which lets you activate after image while on the ground(forgot the name, I apologize for this)
4. No straight rising or descending BUT quick turnarounds will be allowed, just use it will discretion(in other words do not ABUSE it in a battle unless your opponent does not mind.
5. No more than 1-2 rb ki per combo(A combo is considered when you have the hit meter numbers rising)
These rules are obviously rock solid and I am sure most of the tournament members will agree with it, they are simple but COMPLETELY understandable. Hopefully these rules will help you Zero avoid all these arguments over the rules.
If I were you I would just do a vote between these rules and your current rules, whichever set gets more votes is the new rules. I suspect all your tourney participants will be very happy and enjoy the tournament more, also you will get to test your skill against almost any fighting style. This is the way every tournament on RB1 should be, simple, fun, yet completely legit and understandable.
P.S. Participants should support this post if they like it
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 20:32:05 GMT
Well from what i see you said that wilde sense and afterimage didnt count as super.There are indeed supers.Even the most ineffective ones are still counted.
I didnt say this is trash talk screaming.
Even though were on PS3,it doesnt mean im gonna let rising out of combos or anything like that slide by.From what i see the rules are fine the way they are.
what the heck is the dont thing stand for?
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