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Post by nunosox on Jul 26, 2014 19:35:47 GMT
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Post by undertaker300 on Jul 26, 2014 22:01:47 GMT
lol well I think the reason we use Armor break here is because of the random armor effect.
when someone dash at you it suppose to be a risk for him, if he does that you cant punch him out of the dash if armor break isnt equipped.
Now equip armor break and you make things more interesting, people cant turn around in the middle of your combos, cant super rise easily etc...
thats at least my opinion on this subject, btw I am one of the few rare players on the xbox that played Normal competitively (the list is Me,WOF Shadow,WOF Saiyan and WOF Caution)
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Post by nunosox on Jul 26, 2014 22:41:27 GMT
lol well I think the reason we use Armor break here is because of the random armor effect. when someone dash at you it suppose to be a risk for him, if he does that you cant punch him out of the dash if armor break isnt equipped. Now equip armor break and you make things more interesting, people cant turn around in the middle of your combos, cant super rise easily etc... thats at least my opinion on this subject, btw I am one of the few rare players on the xbox that played Normal competitively (the list is Me,WOF Shadow,WOF Saiyan and WOF Caution) about the dashes you can super, sig, dash lol, super rise...ect + i think smash attacks and charge attacks > dash attacks but you guys don't like when someone fights from the back and Armor Break allows people to do that on top of that it breaks the natural armor of signature skills and smash attacks (look at nappa) xD you can just mash the ki button or rush button to stop nappa from charging his smash attacks AB makes the game more "broken" so you guys try to adjust the balance of the game by creating more rules(i don't think is bad just why not just ban AB) |
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Post by undertaker300 on Jul 26, 2014 23:16:00 GMT
about the dashes you can super, sig, dash lol, super rise...ect + i think smash attacks and charge attacks > dash attacks but you guys don't like when someone fights from the back and Armor Break allows people to do that on top of that it breaks the natural armor of signature skills and smash attacks (look at nappa) xD you can just mash the ki button or rush button to stop nappa from charging his smash attacks AB makes the game more "broken" so you guys try to adjust the balance of the game by creating more rules(i don't think is bad just why not just ban AB) I for fact encourage the use of fighting behind the opponent back with LOW-MID tier characters only! but when you use Gogeta or teen gohan and use all of their combos and cancel behind your opponent back I just find it cheap. just imagine they do their entire character possible cancels and then they do the same thing all over again with a R1 Guard cancel. to start the process all over again and doing it again and again and again with a HIGH TIER character pretty cheap if you ask me, high tier dont need to fight behind the opponent backs in order to combo. only way to avoid it is to know exactly when to super rise they use the guard cancel but its hard to predict it if you ask me... "about the dashes you can super, sig, dash lol, super rise...ect + i think smash attacks and charge attacks > dash attacks" Well countering a dash with a super is a good idea, but I usually dont do that lol, signature is out of the option cause I am prohibited to use Piccolo's sig >_> you should see how I dash nuno undertaker dashes > smash attacks and charge attacks xD |
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Post by nunosox on Jul 26, 2014 23:30:01 GMT
but the thing that makes the high tiers high is the ability to combo
the only way out of their combos is by vanishing so fighting on the front or behind makes no difference
nappa sig > dashes xD
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Post by undertaker300 on Jul 26, 2014 23:38:30 GMT
What if both players are at the highest point of the map and you cant super rise to escape the opponent combo? the other player using Gogeta and using all his unvanishable attacks, after the Gogeta player realized he used every cancel of Gogeta he uses SA1 and then a guard cancel to restart the whole process. You are basically at your opponent mercy and cant do anything about it.. its just a infinite loop the gogeta player has too many windows to use the guard cancel his opponent wont know when he will use it... he can use it after a SA1/2/3/4 and smash attack low at least with other characters you can tell when he will use a guard cancel to keep the combo going but with Gogeta AKA HIGH tier character its hard to tell because of too many windows to use the guard cancels Undertaker dashes > nappa sig > sig > smash attacks and charge attacks > dashes  |
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Post by nunosox on Jul 27, 2014 0:20:13 GMT
1st question humm control your "space" better
if its custom you can use that item that gives you ki every time you lose life + the item that gives you "Super RV" when you are in high tension xD
if you play the combo game with gogeta you will obviously lose
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Post by undertaker300 on Jul 27, 2014 0:48:10 GMT
Where are you coming up with all this strategy's lol, never thought of that xD
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Post by G_Vegas24 on Jul 27, 2014 9:38:41 GMT
I Think Armor Break is important. Armor break can not only be used for dashed but also gives you the ability to do more efficient combos. Especially with Character like Gogeta, Goku, Piccolo and so forth.
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Post by JustCallMePaige on Jul 27, 2014 15:01:35 GMT
Zero, can we Super Rise ONLY to escape from the last hit of the Air Combo? That's the only way to counter that, and it doesn't even work with the mnost part of the characters ... :/
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 15:03:41 GMT
Super risings fine lol i mean dont be just plain rising out of combos or descending.
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Post by sicksixcrazy on Jul 27, 2014 16:41:39 GMT
Guys, I'm buying raging blast today from my local gamestop. (Hopefully it's there).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 17:43:15 GMT
I've decided that I'll use Super Trunks & Gotenks as my Low & Mid tier characters. I still need to decide on which High tier I'll use... Maybe Cell, Gohan or Goku because if I use Vegetto or Gogeta, y'all will cry. Jk.  |
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Post by sicksixcrazy on Jul 27, 2014 18:21:27 GMT
Okay, I lied.
I'm getting it tomorrow.
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Post by nunosox on Jul 27, 2014 20:42:17 GMT
I Think Armor Break is important. Armor break can not only be used for dashed but also gives you the ability to do more efficient combos. Especially with Character like Gogeta, Goku, Piccolo and so forth. so its only important because it helps you make better combos xD RV is important too because it helps me get out of those combos xD Where are you coming up with all this strategy's lol, never thought of that xD item + item + item...ect super + item...ect just look at everything you have and then think about what can you do with what you have xD then you will see the strategy tree and ascend to a higher plane of existence  |
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